DS Domination Scam? The Affiliate Program Is A Scam In My Opinion.
Update 5/5/2015: Roger Langille has left DS Domination.
DS Domination Scam Claims:
Using DS Domination is as simple as Copy and Pasting money into your wallet! It is crazy easy. Anyone can do it, and make good money.
6 Figures with NO Traffic and NO Recruiting!
DS Domination Members Rarely Drop Out
The creator of DS Domination scam Roger Langille did not make enough money for his goals selling on Ebay so he went into MLM and now has created his own business opportunity.
DS Domination was launched September 1st 2013. It has been growing rapidly.
There is little information on the actual contents of the products provided on the company website. http://dsdomination.com/
$19.95 monthly for the PRO level – Includes the Pro Level training and videos.
$99.00 monthly for the Elite Level- More advanced training
$249.99 ONE TIME fee for Unleashed training course/software/videos
$499.00 ONE TIME fee for Monopoly training course/software/videos
EXTRAS FOR THE AFFILIATE SIDE:
$9.95 monthly to activate the affiliate side to start making sales!
$199.00 One Time for Market Extreme – Marketing Materials and training for affiliates
They are promoting large amounts of potential income with no income disclosure that shows average income.
They have a no refund policy. http://dsdomination.com/show/page/termsAndConditions
The DS in DS Dominaton stands for Drop Ship.
Here is the the definition of drop shipping: To ship (goods) from a manufacturer or wholesaler directly to a customer instead of to the retailer who took the order.
The pro package that DS Domination is selling for $19.95 is focused on retail arbitrage and not drop shipping.
Arbitrage: The practice of taking advantage of a price difference between two or more retail markets, striking a combination of matching deals that capitalize upon the imbalance, the profit being the difference between the market prices.
What DS Domination is recommending you do is against Amazons Terms Of Service.
“…the only 2 main complaints I’ve found against Roger are…”
1.”…He promotes MLMs like Visalus…”
2. “…He teaches Amazon to eBay dropshipping which is against amazon TOS/causes problems with customers. … Now about this being against Amazon TOS. I 100% agree with you on that and I’ve discussed with Roger on this as well.” – Hitesh
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Amazon Prime members are not permitted to purchase products for the purpose of resale, rental, or to ship to their customers or potential customers using Prime benefits.
They have a 10 level compensation plan which is clearly MLM and not an affiliate program.
You must pay to get paid in the compensation plan. You pay $9.95 per month to be an affiliate.
DS Domination co-founder Keven Hokoana has a live video stating “people must own the product to receive a commission”.
Actually you can earn commissions on any product after making 3 sales of that product.
With a true affiliate program you are not selling any products directly. You are simply the mouthpiece, or the advertising board that tells people where to go and buy products. You will not have to purchase anything, but you will still make money just for telling people where to go to get a product. http://www.affiliateseeking.com/ashow/17.html
They tell you that you don’t have to drive traffic at the start of their webinar, but at the end of the webinar they walk you through why you should pay for leads using Market Extreme.
DS Domination Webinar:
One of the problems with running a retail arbitrage system is Amazon retail prices are constantly changing. This makes it very difficult to track and maintain your profit margins for your sales. Just imagine trying to sell 1,000 items with your purchase prices out of your control and changing constantly.
This is what one Warrior Forum member had to say about DS Domination, “People who are making good money in DS Domination are making it with the pyramid scheme.”
Below is a past complaint about Roger Langille.
Roger Langille is very talented……. At SCAMMING PEOPLE!
I signed up for his eBay training program about 2 years ago. At the time, my eBay store was doing pretty well generating at least $800 profit a month, but I wanted to take it to the next level and landed on Roger’s site and took the plunge.
Basically, he teaches you how to take products from amazon to list on eBay for a profit.
What he is really doing, he has a site set up called “secretbrownbox” that supposedly will tell amazon to send this package in a box WITHOUT THE AMAZON LOGO.
He is just an amazon affiliate who makes a profit of 4 – 7% every single time you buy an item through his link. Genius plan but a pure scam artist BUT WAIT!! That’s not all.
Once you are a member of his eBay profit site, he will try to upsell you into this thing called “Visalus” and the minimum purchase to join is $500 & something like $200 a month.
He tells you by joining Visalus with him, you will have full access to all of his tools on how to make a killing on eBay and he will be there to coach you and walk you through everything.
Once you join Visalus, Roger tries to completely steer you off of eBay ( I guess this is so you don’t find out that the truth about this plain box) & advices you to stick with Visalus instead you will make so much more money.
Genius again, when you use his amazon link he might make as much as $25 a month on your behalf but with Visalus, he WILL MAKE at least $150 a month on you.
So after a while my eBay store suffered tremendously, i went from 100% feedback score to 80% within 2 months. I was issuing refunds for 1 of every 3 products sold.
eBay clients complained because they would order from eBay, receive an amazon box and go to amazon and see that the item they bought from me on ebay was selling for $35 less on amazon.
They called me a scam artist & went to town on the feedbacks.
The war between me & Roger now, I tried to get at least my $500 Visalus refund but no reply, I tried calling, emailing and never got a reply the minute I told him I wanted out.
Roger Langille officially made at least $3000 on me alone! Between his amazon scam which I was ordering at least $10 items a day from, His visalus $500 sign up $150 a month for like 5 months & being a member of his coaching program which was something like $57 a month.
And he must of had at least 10000 people doing the same
Sorry for the looonng post I just don’t want any of you out there to get sucked in by this money hungry Vampire.
Anyway, you live and you learn I’m back on eBay now and things are going very well no thanks to Roger.
Take care warriors and I hope this review was helpful & by the way as far as Visalus, I don’t know how legit they are I’m just sharing my personal experience with Roger.
But I wouldn’t join them anyway.
When you are starting in DS Domination in many cases you will have to pay upfront money for your sales.
I noticed that amazon doesn’t accept payments from paypal. Does this mean we have to front our own money first in order to ship out the items in a timely manner? It normally takes around 3 business days for paypal to transfer money to our bank.
How does this business model work if we need to ship a decent volume of items in order to build up a decent income? I’m guessing in order to do this, we would have to have a large size capital to run a larger operation?
Let me know your thoughts, and how you’ve been able to work the system knowing Amazon doesn’t take paypal payemnts.
Yes, unfortunately they do not. You will have to move at a slower pace as you build up cash flow, and paypal loosens up and releases payments instantly. The great news is that this as you can see will be one of the only models that will free you up for financial freedom without a doubt in the near future.
DS Domination does not automate the collection of sales tax for your retail sales. You are on your own.
Question: Do I have to worry about doing that? Charging sales tax? If so, how do I do that and how do I pay it to the state once I collect it?
Answer: If you charge tax you have to pay tax in those states you charged in, 85% of the time there will be no tax, the other 15% of the time, you will usually break even.
As for the actual filing of the taxes, there are specific forms that cover sales tax and income from sales in them. Paypal also furnishes a Schedule-K to you at the end of the year. For more detailed information, you will need to have your tax professional advise you on this.
DS domination back office tour.
In this video Kevin Hokoana describes why people are not dropping out of DS Domination.
The problem is people are dropping out. The number one knowledge base article in the DS Domination Help Desk is “How To Cancel Membership Future Billing” with over 21,000 people looking at how to do this.
In my opinion DS Domination is using gray area retail arbitrage, standard drop shipping, and commission per action offers to fund a pyramid scheme. If you are looking for a viable long term business opportunity, DS Domination should be avoided.
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