Cydcor/DS-MAX Scam? Yes It Is In My Opinion!
My subscribers have requested that I take a look into a company called Cydcor. When I found out that they were linked with a company called DS-MAX, I knew this was going to be some interesting research. DS-MAX’s nickname is Devilcorp.
DS-MAX uses many different company names to run the same scam all over the world. Here is how the scam works. They run ads on Craigslist and other job boards and offer Management Entry Level positions. Once you accept their job offer, you will find yourself selling products and services door to door. In many cases you will end up working 60 hours per week for less than minimum wage. Depending on the state, you will be 100% commission to start. These guys are the masters of the job scam.
Here is an example job ad:
Management – Entry Level
Compensation: Guaranteed Hourly plus Bonuses, Travel Opportunity, Paid Training
T.A.G Advertising, located in California is an independently owned brand management and advertising firm. T.A.G. is contracted with the Fortune Magazine’s top 1000 companies in the world.
We are looking for quality full time entry level individuals to train and advance through our sales and consulting team. This entry level full time person must have a positive and enthusiastic demeanor and work well in a strong entry level team environment. Our position involves one on one sales interaction with customer’s full time.
This is an entry level, full time sales position. We are looking to train in: sales, campaign development and business operations from entry level.
T.A.G. is now offering full time positions at the entry level for sales and marketing. We are looking for full time entry level people with diverse backgrounds. If you are tired of working in the restaurant, hospitality or retail business, use your experience and switch fields. We are only meeting with candidates that want a full time entry level career, so please only apply if you are serious about making the change.
Responsibilities at the entry level include:
Assisting in the daily full time operation of our company
Assisting in new business acquisition for our client
Developing strong leadership skills among our employees
Managing external customers’ needs
Sales and consulting
We are constantly looking to surround ourselves full time with the most profitable clients, the most charismatic people, and the most ambitious entry level full time managers. We treat our full time entry level employees as future partners and we know we are all more effective when we are equipped with the right training and knowledge.
To apply for this full time entry level position, you must clearly demonstrate the following qualities:
Great personality and people skills
Excellent communication skills
Ability to work in a fast paced, high-energy, full time environment
Ambition, strong work ethic, and willingness to learn
A desire to work in an entry level team-based environment
Why is our company so awesome to work for?
BECAUSE WE OFFER:
Advancement opportunities from entry level into Human Resources, Management and Consulting Full Time
Fun & exciting team environment
Comprehensive and continued training including (but not limited to) Business Building Blocks, Financial training, shadowing, campaign knowledge and more for full time entry level openings
Our full time entry level Management team is TOP of the line!!
Fun company events such as National Award Conference, R&R Weekend, Keys to Success, Team Nights, Community Service Events and more
***We are NOT a telemarketing company and we do NOT do any OUTSIDE SALES!***
For immediate consideration, submit your UPDATED RESUME.
Thank you for your interest and good luck!
Here is a video expose of one of the “independent” DS-MAX offices.
The Cydcor/DS-MAX scam is really ingenious. The entire company is setup in such a way that they squeeze the most out of eager young talent and give back as little as possible. They don’t have to offer any benefits until 90 days of employment but they know that 95% of of the people “hired” will figure out that they have been duped well before they have to pay. The only overhead that they have is renting office space to give the impression to new recruits that they are a legitimate company and paying the secretary/recruiter who spends her day scheduling interviews to keep up with the constant turnover.
This company constantly changes the names of the field offices so that people are unable to track down useful information on this job scam. Here is a link to some of the company names that have been connected with DS-MAX. DS-MAX has changed their name to Innovage in the USA.
Innovage, LLC engages in marketing and supplying professional products. The company offers books, giftware, house and kitchen wares, business and commercial products, plants/foliage, toys and games, irons, telephones, CD cases and accessories, watches, pen sets, radios, and bags through its marketing site. It has a strategic alliance with Three Sixty Sourcing, Ltd. The company was formerly known as DS-MAX USA, Inc. and changed its name to Innovage, LLC in May 2004. The company was founded in 1981 and is headquartered in Foothill Ranch, California. Innovage, LLC operates as a subsidiary of DS-MAX Canada, Inc. – Source Bloomberg
Here is a link to a document that shows that DS-MAX and Cydcor are affiliated with each other.
Here is a video presentation for Cydcor.
Since the name that this company goes by is always changing, I want to share with you their system so you will know what to look for.
It all starts with an email when you apply for one of their Management positions.
Hello ***** ,
I’d like to thank you for your interest in our company and the positions that are currently available. After considering several candidates that have applied to our openings, we would like to invite you in for a preliminary, one on one interview, with our directing manager. The management team and I have reviewed a large amount of resumes and we feel as if yours exemplifies many of the qualifications that we are looking for in our team. We would like to meet with you within the next few days to begin the formal interview process.
As soon as you receive this email, please contact me at xxx-xxx-xxxx in order to schedule a definite time to meet with you and discuss the opportunities that are available at our firm. Below, you will find our contact information. We look forward to hearing from you soon.
They will schedule a short 15 minute first interview with you. During this interview they will verify you speak English and dress well. They will be very vague about what the business is all about. If you ask too many tough questions, they will not invite you back for a second interview. They will end the interview and tell you they will call you to let you know if you made the grade.
You will receive a call for a second interview shortly after your first interview. Your second interview will be a day of observation. You will be doing a walk along with a current representative of the company. The day of observation will be hours of one on one/door to door sales. If you convince them you are excited about this type of work, they will invite you to become a sales rep. Most people walk away at this point when they find out that they will not be doing management.
Here is what each day will be like as a sales rep. You will have an hour long meeting in the morning. This meeting includes loud music, Cydcor lingo, and practice pitching. Then you go out into the field. At the end of your day there will be another meeting. Your day is from 7:00 AM to 6:30 PM. You are in the field around 8 hours each day six days a week. None of your meals or travel expenses are reimbursed.
What keeps people going through these grueling days with very limited pay is the promise of becoming a six figure earner which never comes for almost everyone.
Here is a video that explains what happens each day in the office.
Here are some red flags to look out for when dealing with a DS-MAX affiliated company.
- They want you to start immediately, provide full training, and claim to offer earnings close to $400-$800 per week.
- The office looks like it is nearly bare or they just moved into it.
- They contact you within hours after you apply.
- There is a four step ‘business progression’ which takes 9–18 months to complete. They claim you move from Field Representative to Team Leader to Assistant Manager/Owner to Manager/Owner. The last stage is where you’d earn the big bucks.
- You are required to sign an Agreement that states you are not associated with the company and that the role is 100% commission based. You are told that you are ‘self employed’ and need to pay for all expenses.
- You hear the chant JUICE, DS-Max’s slogan (‘Join Us In Creating Excitement’).
- The term ‘Law of Averages’ is used.
- Your days consist of morning teachings with music blaring, a talk by a manager and 8–10 hours of door-to-door selling. – Source Doortodoortruth.wordpress.com
The reason for the nickname of Devilcorp for Cydcor/DS-Max is you feel like you have to make a deal with the devil to succeed.
Here is a quote from a previous representative that explains this deal you have to make.
So you will be expected to uproot your entire existence and sacrifice whatever financial security, friendships, relationships and credit fitness you have if you decide to pursue a career with this company. Then you have to succeed at getting others to sacrifice whatever financial security, friendships, relationships and credit fitness they have just so you in turn can make a buck. It’s a vicious cycle. And take note that only the weak-willed will allow themselves to be permanently suckered into Scam and their affiliated companies all while sacrificing their morals and their conscience for a cult-like and greed-driven mentality.
I was only it in 6 months, I can’t even begin to imagine how corrupt, illegal and downright evil this company really is from the top. If I ever make it to public office or find myself in some position of more widespread influence, I will highly publicize and expose the inner workings of this corporate abomination. – Source Glassdoor.com (Smart Circle Is Another Company Name DS-Max Uses.)
Cydcor/DS-MAX Scam Conclusion
In my opinion, Cydcor/DS-Max is a job scam. They offer you a management position and what you get is a straight commission, face-to-face/door-to-door sales position with little chance of making significant income. Don’t let them scam you out of your time and effort.
Here is a firsthand account from a previous Cydcor member: